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Explained: A Unique Aspect of Startup Employee Pay

Explained: A Unique Aspect of Startup Employee Pay

Natasha Mascarenhas
Anita Ramaswamy

July 27, 2022

31 min


Hello and welcome back to Equity, a podcast about the business of startups, where we unpack the numbers and nuance behind the headlines.

This is our Wednesday show, where we niche down to a single topic, think about a question and unpack the rest. This week, Natasha and Anita asked:
When is a company taking internal valuation cuts a good thing?


Normally, when we hear about valuations going down, that’s a red flag that things aren’t going well at a given company or in the market at large. We wrote about Stripe’s 28% internal valuation cut earlier this month and as we listened to different reactions to the news, we noticed some people had an unexpected take — that this downward revision was actually a positive for the company’s employees.

That’s because the cut came from an internal 409A valuation appraisal, which is totally different from the investor-led valuations we normally hear reported on in the news. So we brought on two experts — Phil Haslettof EquityZen and Sumukh Sridharof AngelList — to help us unpack what this valuation cut actually means for startup employees and what else they need to know about their equity compensation heading into a market downturn.

For more information, you can also check out our TechCrunch+ piece about the matter, ‘Stripe’s new and lower internal valuation’.


Founders in front of investors vs. 409A appraisers


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Natasha Mascarenhas

Senior Reporter
Natasha Mascarenhas was a senior reporter at TechCrunch covering early stage startups and venture capital trends.

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Anita Ramaswamy

Reporter, Crypto and Fintech
Anita Ramaswamy was a reporter at TechCrunch focused on crypto and fintech. She also co-hosted TechCrunch’s weekly crypto podcast, Chain Reaction, and co-authored its companion newsletter of the same name.

Before TechCrunch, Anita covered financial institutions for Business Insider. Prior to becoming a journalist, she worked as an investment banking analyst at Wells Fargo Securities.

You can reach her via email at anita(at)techcrunch(dot)com and follow her on Twitter at @anitaramaswamy.


Disclosure: Anita owns small amounts of equity in several companies.


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